A Conversation With: SECOND THOUGHT (part One)

I (Kat noted as Groupie below) got the chance to sit down for what I thought was going to be an interview with group, SECOND THOUGHT, a while back on our Groupie Couch.

Well, what started out as a standard interview soon turned into a 3 hour industry conversation.

Below is part one of a conversation between myself (Groupie), and SECOND THOUGHT (Matt and Joe).

Groupie: So first off you are a bit of a weird group, you don’t live in the same city and you do a lot of collaboration via the internet, how’s that process played out thus far?

Matt: People have this conception that you have to go to Los Angeles or London to be successful, and I just don’t believe that. You have the internet now, it’s changed everything.

Joe: I saw a tweet saying like “Yall got to stop acting like you can’t network meaningfully through the internet” and that’s how I feel about everything right now.

Groupie: That makes perfect sense to me, I found one of my biggest connections in Pittsburgh using Twitter a while back.

Matt: We’re trying to network a lot right now. As a group, we haven’t even played a live show yet. I think that’s our next step is looking into that.

Joe: Obviously there’s smaller venues, but I don’t want to do a show until people are willing to show up.

Matt: I feel that, but I want to just put it [our music] out there too.

Groupie: I feel that showcases are helpful a lot of the time, you have to learn how to be on a stage.

Joe: We’re trying to really take things into our own hands.

Matt: The main focus of our music is that we want to do it ourselves. You talk about the DIY culture a lot, and that’s where my focus is in making our music.

Groupie: DIY is this huge voice in your head. There is something inside you that has to speak to you. Yeah you can wake up one day and say “I want to make money off music,” but guess what, their music lives for two years.

Then there’s the people that have that little voice in their head, telling them to make art, finding ways to express themselves, and those are the people that leave a legacy in their wake. There’s a group of people who can see a space in the world that needs to be filled by you and your work.

Matt: We were just talking about that. Of course people idolize success, but the only people who stick around are the people that have a passion. Hell I used to rip YouTube beats and record on a Dynamic mic. The early songs were hilarious, but we made them because we need to.

Joe: One thing I was going to say, about some people being classically trained vs not, I’ve noticed that sometimes composition is lacking. Or just being able to look at things from a musical standpoint.

Matt: Yeah, we met playing in a [metal] band together.

Joe: After that, that’s how we got into producing. So I think that background in instrumentation helped start us out as far as music goes.

Groupie: I firmly believe that rap is the new punk rock

Matt and Joe: IT IS!

Groupie: Punks don’t have a lot to say anymore. And don’t get me wrong, I love [specifically] Connecticut punk, but a lot of that is coming out of Fairfield County which is the richest county so there's this massive disconnect with it. It feels like those kids are kicking back on the money [they didn’t earn], in the only way they know how.

Joe: Punk seems to be physical [like hip-hop] in how it emerges in certain states and cities

Groupie: Punk tends to manifest where money is. The youngest generation in Connecticut is

very heavily into punk rock right now. Virginia on the other hand, doesn’t seem to have found their focus yet. What is your focus?

Matt: For a little over a year now we’ve just been focusing on getting out music out, but now I think we’re in a place to spread our music out.

Joe: Just really take us on the road as much as we can. One thing I can say about Charlottesville is it’s very dramatic and clique driven and that messes with the scene. There’s so many little groups that right now Charlottesville can’t have a cohesive scene.

Groupie: The one thing that I’ll say about Charlottesville, is that the you can look at [the music scene] externally and you can tell what everyone does.

Matt: At least in the Charlottesville scene we fill the spot of “not your typical”

Groupie: and that kind of different approach to music, shines through

Matt: I hope at least, that it comes off as authentic to people.

Groupie: What do you think of Rob $tone? Because he did Chill Bill, but right after that he went through a brief musical period of putting out a similar sound to yours.

Joe: I don’t think I know about Rob $tone like that, but that’s super interesting.

Matt: I’m going to be the interviewer now, For you has it always been music in general, or hip-hop?

Groupie: For me, it’s always been music in general, and as time went on the rap and the wave music is when I really noticed a movement that deserved a spotlight.

Joe: That’s honestly how I feel about the music I make, just that it’s something I’ve

gravitated to over time.

Groupie: Where does your music come from?

Matt: We can’t make music about anything inauthentic.

Joe: Personally, I’m from LA, but I’ve been here since I was 8 years old, I haven’t seen anything. Yeah, my dad would tell me stories, but me personally, this [Charlottesville, VA] is pretty much the only thing that I know. The music is just how we feel.

Groupie: And that’s why you’re here on our Groupie Couch!


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